tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27554065.post3968130379671812370..comments2024-03-27T17:52:09.889-04:00Comments on You Might Notice a Trend: But That Was Another Country, and Besides That Party Is DeadPaul Whttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13092023794397583036noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27554065.post-76546596712819797222016-10-23T23:04:19.640-04:002016-10-23T23:04:19.640-04:00Matt, I kinda think Trump is a one-and-done player...Matt, I kinda think Trump is a one-and-done player here. He's burned a lot of bridges to get this far and exposed himself to a lot of bad press and worse business situations. He's still got a handful of serious lawsuits weighing him down for one. The second is that he'll NEVER get that Trump TV deal going because honestly NOBODY will be crazy enough to buy into it (not with him mismanaging it into another bankruptcy). Third, his existing properties - his gaudy hotels - are losing guests and money: a kind of unofficial boycott where nobody wants to stay at one and where no organizations want to host conferences at them.<br /><br />Trump may well try to run as a third party candidate in 2020 but half of his audience will have moved on and he'd have nothing left to campaign on but the same old rage.Paul Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13092023794397583036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27554065.post-41946557328857031012016-10-23T22:24:57.702-04:002016-10-23T22:24:57.702-04:00Trump will be back, just watch. Donald Will spend ...Trump will be back, just watch. Donald Will spend the next three years as a kind of insult comic-slash-shadow president on Trump TV, feeding the Breitbart/Infowarz echo chambers as the new Ron Paul. He'll start out with a real war chest next time. What party stalwart could possibly defeat him at this point, much less four years from now? If they freeze him out, he'll just start his own UKIP-style party, but in a nation with totally different demographics from Great Britain.<br /><br />I predict he becomes a gift that keeps right on giving.Matt Osbornehttp://www.twitter.com/osborneinknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27554065.post-14732677012674061972016-10-23T16:35:31.278-04:002016-10-23T16:35:31.278-04:00Nothing really to add, but I just want to say that...Nothing really to add, but I just want to say that this is as good a treatment of this vital issue as anything I have seen in a long time.Green Eaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13477132834757467690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27554065.post-85445824159533177632016-10-17T19:56:26.990-04:002016-10-17T19:56:26.990-04:00Sorry Pinku but I always refer back to the Muppets...Sorry Pinku but I always refer back to the Muppets Do Hollywood special with Lily Tomlin and Dudley Moore for some reason. "8 Billion Light Years For This?" Oh man, I'm giggling to myself again.Paul Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13092023794397583036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27554065.post-89456181906754548622016-10-17T16:38:47.410-04:002016-10-17T16:38:47.410-04:00The Republicans are doomed until they get up off o... The Republicans are doomed until they get up off of their white centered mindset. The population is already majority-minority under the age of six. You can't win by demonizing votes you actually need. I have little sympathy for them and their fear of the base they have accumulated, mostly because us lefties were telling them it was a bad idea to court them the whole time, and as I remember it, being called traitors, fifth-columnists, and surrender monkeys for our trouble.<br /><br /> -Doug in Oaklanddinthebeasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12941071534250216503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27554065.post-30381810226445011362016-10-17T15:09:46.530-04:002016-10-17T15:09:46.530-04:00LMAO! Glad to play a part in the comedic framing ...LMAO! Glad to play a part in the comedic framing of this post. Of course, for musical silliness set in the glory that was Rome, there is always <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-hZhr2k2hk" rel="nofollow">the original. Comedy Tonight!</a>Pinku-Senseihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16247618351725715844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27554065.post-1438152693784515922016-10-16T22:53:22.262-04:002016-10-16T22:53:22.262-04:00All they have is the "rigged election" a...All they have is the "rigged election" and "conspiratorial media" whine to fall back on to save face in the eyes of the base, the ones glued to the TV for their opinions. Thankfully, Kasich will be gone from our statehouse so I can look forward to watching him flail again without being haunted by the thought of having him come back to Ohio. Denny from Ohionoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27554065.post-76996259069336399042016-10-16T19:01:26.166-04:002016-10-16T19:01:26.166-04:00Even if such a would-be reformist Republican leade...Even if such a would-be reformist Republican leader were available, I don't think he could save them. The circumstances are completely wrong. The party is a coalition of several incompatible groups which are becoming so ideologically rigid that they can barely tolerate each other's presence in the same party -- Christian fundamentalists, libertarian limited-government believers, the big-business wing, and the Trump crowd, whatever you'd call them (nihilistic populists?). Each group seems bent on purging the others out of the party after Trump loses. Everything points to fragmentation, not revival.<br /><br /><i>And Trump is not an anomaly: He fit exactly what the Republican voting base wanted.</i><br /><br />And that's another reason they're doomed. The problem is the base, not the leadership. Just as a reformist leader like Eisenhower couldn't accomplish anything because the base wouldn't want him, the only reason Trump has become such a huge problem is that the base <i>did</i> want him. If he'd run for the nomination in a basically sane party, he'd have won maybe 2% of the primary vote and sunk without a trace.<br /><br /><i>Historically, parties retain control of the Presidency due to two things: 1) solid economic growth/stability or 2) terrible opposing parties.</i><br /><br />And condition (2) is solidly in effect. On steroids. Even if the Republican party avoids fragmentation into its disparate factions, there's no reason to think the base in 2020 will be able or willing to rally behind someone viable like Kasich or Jeb any more than they were this time. The best they'll likely be able to do will be to nominate Pence -- he's a "normal" politician and may be sellable to the Trump crowd because Trump chose him for VP -- but a God-hates-fags theocrat is hardly more viable than Trump in a general election. Maybe less.<br /><br />Yep, they're screwed.Infidel753https://www.blogger.com/profile/10965786814334886696noreply@blogger.com